Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!uflorida!gatech!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Amiga OS *IS* state of the art, but the NeXT is better Message-ID: Date: 3 Apr 91 07:19:07 GMT References: <20267@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1991Apr3.040256.27402@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Distribution: usa Organization: Penn State Computer Science Lines: 38 In-Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu's message of Wed, 3 Apr 1991 04:02:56 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws5.sys.cs.psu.edu In article <1991Apr3.040256.27402@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: You sound like someone who doesn't know what he is talking about and doesn't want to. It is becoming more and more apparent that you are here simply to cause trouble, not to express real opinions. Commodore has been shipping a 68030 machine for over a year and a half in the form of the A2500/30. Forgot about that? I wonder if that is what we have over in the corner? Commodore seems to have caught up with the industry pretty fast. The 040 isn't being shipped in machines by anyone except NeXT and maybe HP. The 040s have been available to developers for SO long that everyone has their boards done, they are just waiting for 040s to put in them! I'd say you'll see it for the Amiga as soon as you see it for the Mac. You can buy an 040 Mac board for $3500 from Raduis. In case you don't know, the NeXT costs $4995 retail. The 17" monitor, DSP, software, 105MB hard drive, 8MB RAM, 2.88MB floppy, and the software. If you go to a university that sells NeXTs, you can buy everything for around $3250. Yes, that's less than the Mac upgrade. And why do you type NeXT when you using it to mean the word next? And, as to 15 mips not being fast enough, that's why Motorola does things called R&D which allow them to come out with new and faster chips! What a concept! There was the 68000, 010, 020, 030, now the 040, and there'll likely be an 050 as well. And how about a 50MHz 040! We're all waiting for the 50MHz 040. Intel is releasing the 50MHz 486 soon. I wouldn't hold my breath until the 050 is released. RISC machines are about to stomp all over CISC machines. Take the 57 mip HP Snake for $12,000 as an example. Any company that is waiting for the 050 is going to go out of business. -Mike