Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!olivea!oliveb!amdahl!JUTS!rmm20 From: rmm20@ccc.amdahl.com (Robert Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games Subject: Re: Lemmings (and Copy Protection) Message-ID: <5bkf02r=06Zx01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> Date: 29 Mar 91 18:17:53 GMT Reply-To: rmm20@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Robert Mitchell) Distribution: usa Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA Lines: 46 OK, here is my contribution to the Great Lemming Debate: I purchased Lemmings 28 days ago; I know because I am looking at the Mastercard bill which I have not paid yet. It was used maybe a dozen times; now it refuses to load. Even a great game that will not load (tested on several systems) is trash. I returned it to my dealer, HT Electronics. While they would not replace it, they did pay for a call to Psygnetics in Massachusetts. These people had the unmitigated gall to accuse me of exposing their game to a Virus! As if media never failed. If at my own expense, I mail it back to them and they verify it is not Virus infested, they will send me a replacement, date unspecified. Personal opinions: 1) An ethical distributor would have the retail establishment replace defective merchandise on the spot. This would certainly be the case if I purchased a Nintendo cartridge from Target. 2) An ethical distributor would use the best media available if it is copy protected. This media is Kao. 3) An ethical distributor, concerned about Virus damage to it's products, would use media without a write enable shutter. In a game like Lemmings, there is no requirement to ever write to the disk. It should be Virus proof. (My disks were never write enabled). Now what do I do? 1) Send the disks back to Psygnosis and trust them (?) to actually send me a replacement. And if they get lost in shipping or in Psgnosis' mail room, what are the chances of my getting replacements?? I have no choice on this one, I have to send them back. 2) The Mastercharge bill. I can contest payment of the charge to HT Electronics on the basis of defective merchandise until I get a replacement, but this does not seem fair to HT. I am really very opposed to copy protection. - Robert Mitchell -- UUCP: rmm20@juts.ccc.amdahl.com DDD: 408-746-8491 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 205, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 BIX: bobmitchell