Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!ucbvax!unisoft!hoptoad!wet!pk From: pk@wet.UUCP (Philip King) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone own an ICD SCSI hd controler? Others mentioned.. Message-ID: <2254@wet.UUCP> Date: 29 Mar 91 04:19:47 GMT References: <91084.191834IO91461@MAINE.BITNET> Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco Lines: 54 In article <91084.191834IO91461@MAINE.BITNET> IO91461@MAINE.BITNET (Tom Nezwek) writes: > > Does anyone have an ICD hd controler and wish to comment on its >performance? Dperf2 results? The reason I ask is that this is a Well, I have an 'ADscsi 2000', or as they used to call it an 'Advantage 2000' SCSI host adaptor. I use it with a Imprimis/Seagate 94350-230S/ ST-1239N 200 Meg. drive, which is rated at 15ms access. While I don't seem to have the figures handy, it seemed to peak out at somewhere around 600k reads, on my unaccelerated A2000. This seems to jibe fairly closely with the readings ICD publishes using Quantum drives of similiar performance. In those specs, it shows the ICD to be faster than nearly every other controller shown (which includes the GVP II, Wordsync, Trumpcard, 2091, and others) in most parameters. Since the ICD is not a DMA device, and since it uses data caching, the specs are particularly impressive on an accelerated Amiga. The only card that had any significant number of parameters where it occasionally beat the ICD (according to their tests) was the HardFrame. On the other hand, someone mentioned recently in one of the Amiga newsgroups, that because of the algorhythm that ICD uses for caching, some bad stuff could happen if the cpu happens to crash at certain moments. I don't know much about that. I don't have much experience with a _good_ DMA controller (the A2090 I had before doesn't qualify!), so I don't know what the differences would be. I do notice with the ICD that screen updates don't appear to happen until the transfer/directory scan finishes. This may be due to the fact that non-DMA controllers tie up the CPU more. The reason I bought the ICD was the price, the (reputed) speed, and the removeable-media support. Before anyone else, ICD claimed to support auto-diskchange, and to this day I believe they are the only ones who say you can interchange _differently partitioned_ Syquest cartridges without having to restart everything. Unfortunately, the documentation I received with my board is pretty sketchy...one of the few that comes close to rivalling Commodore in that respect, unfortunately. By the way, I tested the speed with Diskspeed 3.1, which is by all accounts a superior benchmark program to Dperf2. Khalid Aldoseiri, who wrote Dperf and frequents CI$, noted some of its limitations himself, such as choking at very high data-transfer rates. I believe Diskspeed 3.1 is either PD or shareware, and commonly available. It might help to have a standard frame of reference for these comparisons. > > > -Tom Nezwek Philip pk@wet.uucp {ucsfcca,claris,hoptoad}!wet!pk