Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!rutgers!cbmvax!jesup From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: Assemblers, was Re: Lemmings - a tutorial Part IV Message-ID: <20237@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 1 Apr 91 22:01:31 GMT References: <23787@well.sf.ca.us> Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 36 In article mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes: >Someone posted to the net a few days ago that Matt Dillon's DAS >assembler is the fastest/best 68000 assembler around. Well, I collect >assemblers in my constant search for better/faster onces, so I >downloaded DICE to check out the assembler. No, they responded to your comment that assemblers written in C were far slower than assemblers written in assembler. >Well, whoever it was that recommended it must not use assembler language >for much, because DAS is NOT much of an assembler. When you invoke it >from the command line, it prints the following message: It's not supposed to be a general-purpose stand-alone assembler. It does what it's designed to do. >We who use assembler language don't use "minimal" assemblers. This >assembler is useless to us, but it doesn't claim to be useful to do >anything but assembling the output of Matt's compiler. Who is kidding >who here? No offense to Matt, but to say this is an assembler is a >joke. It no doubt assembles whatever DC1 generates, but DC1 can't >be using much of the 68000 instruction set if it expects DAS to >assemble it. In Matt's behalf, his assembler does what it's advertised >to do. As you noted, Matt doesn't try to say it's a useful tool for people writing in asm. He did say that it is as fast as some assemblers written in assembler, in response to your comments about the Aztec 'as' assembler, which is also meant primarily for assembling the output of a compiler. -- Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering. {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com BIX: rjesup Thus spake the Master Ninjei: "To program a million-line operating system is easy, to change a man's temperament is more difficult." (From "The Zen of Programming") ;-)