Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!bacchus!mwm From: mwm@pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Tools (Was: Lemmings - a tutorial Part IV) Message-ID: Date: 3 Apr 91 17:19:15 GMT References: <1991Mar31.195148.6667@starnet.uucp> <24001@well.sf.ca.us> <1991Apr3.104218.5224@neon.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@pa.dec.com (News) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 32 In-Reply-To: espie@flamingo.Stanford.EDU's message of 3 Apr 91 10:42:18 GMT In article <1991Apr3.104218.5224@neon.Stanford.EDU> espie@flamingo.Stanford.EDU (Marc Espie) writes: One very strong point of the amiga is that you can use whatever tool is best suited to what you want to do. Just for starters, you have assemblers, basics, FORTRAN, C, Pascal, ModulaII, C++, forth, scheme, lisp, prolog, rexx, postscript, tex, awk, bison, flex, mathlab, maple, oberon, draco, scriptit, etc (sorry for those I've forgotten). Blah. Compared to most other systems, the Amiga tool selection sucks rocks. For example, tell me where I can get an of the following: ABC? ADA? APL? CLU (my personal favorite language)? Common LISP? EFL? Eiffel? FP? ML? MORTRAN? Python? OPS5? RATFOR? SAS? SETL? SmallTalk (real smalltalk, not little smalltalk)? And some of the offerings are deficient. For example, can you tell me where I can get: A recent Icon or Perl? A LISP with a compiler? _Any_ language with reasonable access to Intuition (CanDo comes closest, but it pretty much sucks as a programming environment, and is still a pain)? Admittedly, compared to the kinds of systems most people moved to the Amiga from (me included), the Amiga has an incredible wealth of tools. But compared to the kinds of world today, it just doesn't cut it.