Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!ucbvax!hplabs!hpcc05!hpsciz!stout From: stout@hpsciz.sc.hp.com (Tim Stoutamore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Re- AE RumorsMessage-ID- <1 Message-ID: <9090002@hpsciz.sc.hp.com> Date: 29 Mar 91 21:10:24 GMT References: <12998@ucrmath.ucr.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA Lines: 17 Randy Hyde writes: >The 65xxx family has always used a two-phase clock and a high performance >bus interface. X Mhz on a 65xxx is comparable to 2X Mhz on most other >processors (at least, in terms of memory access times). A 25Mhz 65c816 >(on the bus anyway) is comparable to a 80386 running at 50Mhz (please, no >flames or jumping for joy, the performance of the two is not the same for >reasons I'll soon get in to). Indeed, the two-phase clock is assymmetrical, >so memory access time is even faster than this. You are mixing apples and oranges. It is not correct to say the two-phase clock is assymmetrical unless you are talking about a particular system. You are talking about a microprocessor that can be designed into a multitude of systems. The system provides the clock, not the microprocessor. In addition, although I am not familiar with the Apple II, the 65xxx systems that I am familiar with do use a symmetrical clock. I used to work at Rockwell as an applications engineer. All the apps notes and applications that I saw there, and the systems that I have designed, use a symmetrical clock.