Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!aplcomm!capd.jhuapl.edu!waltrip From: waltrip@capd.jhuapl.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Freewhare hurts the NeXT (was Re: Desktop publishing) Message-ID: <1991Apr1.002732.1@capd.jhuapl.edu> Date: 1 Apr 91 05:27:32 GMT References: <1446@toaster.SFSU.EDU> <1991Mar30.063733.27117@news.cs.indiana.edu> <70367@brunix.UUCP> <1991Mar31.084853.18232@news.cs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@aplcomm.JHUAPL.EDU Organization: CAPVAX, JHU/APL Lines: 59 In article <1991Mar31.084853.18232@news.cs.indiana.edu>, jashley@loanshark.cs.indiana.edu (J. Michael Ashley) writes: > In article <70367@brunix.UUCP> you write: >>In article <1991Mar30.063733.27117@news.cs.indiana.edu> jashley@loanshark.cs.indiana.edu (J. Michael Ashley) writes: >>>It's bad, because GNU cc is *not* the last word in C compilers. I am >>>positive that several or even lots of people out there are capable of >>>writing a C compiler that will smoke gcc, but they're never going to write >>>it, because they can't compete against a free product. Why should the >> Somehow your original post didn't make it to our site (yet?) and I don't know whether the excerpts properly convey your point so please excuse me if my responses are inappropriate. However, the thrust of your point seems to be that free software is an ultimate damper on the development of better "not-free" software that would have to compete with the free software. Perhaps in some cases this is true but I would point out that we can all take heart from the fact that a number of other machines that have a large base of freeware seem to be doing well (Macs, PeeCees, Amigas) and UNIX in general has a large body of freeware that seems to be a major attraction to many of us. So freeware in general is not necessarily a problem...but, on the other hand, I suspect you CAN point out some specific instances where existence of a free package inhibited development of a better "not-free" alternative. But that probably did not adversely affect the prosperity of the platform on which the freeware ran. [...material deleted...] > I'm not questioning the fact that GNU software is good. My point is that > somebody can *always* do *better*. > Your choice of GNU software as an illustration is probably unfortunate. Their reputation is the best and I suspect you will get a lot of responses to that effect. More to the point, it's not clear that "somebody can always do better". Very few companies will turn a first class programmer loose to do his/her own thing. You usually do your boss' own thing...or a committee's own thing(s). So SOME free software is a labor of love offered as a creative expression of how someone feels something should be done. It's hard to top that even for money. The issue of support was also mentioned, I believe, in your original post (at least I've seen it attributed in some other posted responses). This would also be unfortunate to associate with the NeXT compiler which IS supported by NeXT. The fact that it is based on the GNU compiler is irrelevant to the issue of support...and I have no reason to believe the support is inferior to what we are accustomed to in the rest of the commercial world. In fact, the fact that something is a commercial product is no guarantee that it will be supported as I have discovered first hand. Having read comp.sys.next for a while, I see no reason to be concerned about the quality of support for the compiler for the NeXT. c.f.waltrip Internet: Opinions expressed are my own.