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From: rbraun@spdcc.COM (Rich Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Services for Netware
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Date: 2 Apr 91 18:00:12 GMT
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earp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James K Earp) writes:
>We're operating an Ethernet Network with 2 Netware 2.10 SFT 
>servers and one Netware 386 server.  We have a need to provide
>the full suite of TCP/IP network services (Telnet, FTP, & SMTP)
>to all users on all servers. ...  There has to be
>some method whereby the TCP/IP software would reside and execute on
>one or more of the existing netware servers ...

It depends on what you want to do, exactly.  There is a very cheap
way to provide the above without any cost at all, given that you
already have Ethernet cards and cabling in place.  Get the following
items:

	- Clarkson Telnet  (from omnigate.clarkson.edu)
	- BYU/Clarkson Packet drivers (same place)
	- CMU/MIT PC/IP

There are a number of distribution sites for this software.  There
is also an NFS server called SOS, which I'm about to release in a new
improved version; it allows you to export Novell filesystems to Unix
or other NFS users.

With this software, and a single Ethernet card in each DOS system, you
then run a dual-protocol stack with both TCP/IP and NetWare.  The
packet driver routes packets to the appropriate software, allowing you
to (for example) FTP files directly from a Unix system via TCP/IP to
a Novell server.  I've had no problems with the Clarkson software, either,
contrary to the negative image often associated with public-domain
software.

You do not need a "TCP/IP server" resident in your Novell servers, although
that would be nice for gateway and SMTP service.  NetWare version 3.11,
now being released, will have a TCP/IP gateway and some other features
in it (I'm looking forward to seeing them).  An NFS server is coming out
soon, implemented as an add-on NLM to the existing Novell software.

The dual-protocol stack solution seems to me the cleanest way of allowing
users access to any system on the network regardless of whether it's
running NetWare or TCP/IP.  You don't need any additional hardware.

Novell will probably have quite a few more TCP/IP offerings in the future,
now that they've committed to more support in 3.11.

One problem I have not licked is an SMTP gateway to cc:Mail, a popular
e-mail product for Novell networks.  FTP Software provides a public-
domain solution, but it requires allocating a couple of spare PCs.  Now
that Unix programs can get direct NFS access to files on Novell servers, I
can envision running a cc:Mail gateway under Unix rather than DOS.  It hasn't
been done yet, though.

-rich