Xref: utzoo comp.windows.x.motif:2385 comp.windows.open-look:1086 comp.windows.x:34755 comp.windows.misc:1919 comp.unix.misc:1237 news.misc:6398 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!hsdndev!spdcc!tauxersvilli!alphalpha!nazgul From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.misc,comp.unix.misc,news.misc Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today! Message-ID: <1991Apr1.200447.22561@alphalpha.com> Date: 1 Apr 91 20:04:47 GMT References: <9103311549.AA20101@presto.ig.com> <1991Apr1.055516.12726@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: asi Lines: 33 In article <1991Apr1.055516.12726@midway.uchicago.edu> bkc2@quads.uchicago.edu (Benjamin Clardy) writes: >Since there are now toolkits that allow simultaneous devleopment of Motif and >Openlook applications, I do not feel that the existence of these two standards Are any shipping yet? Do you really think they can be used to produce production code? >OpenWindows (and Motif?) needs addition features: > 1. Keyboard shortcuts. These should be standardized like they are on > the Mac, i.e. COMMAND-X for cut, COMMAND-V for paste, etc. How do you do this in a GUI independant manner (Motif has these, the Mac as these - they are of course different). > 4. The ability for an application to display on icon without being > loaded into memory. I think the drag and drop metaphor is makes > sense, but I don't always want an application in memory to do > that, e.g. having Pageview loaded all the time to view a PostScript > file. How about dynamic starting of the application in this case? There are applications that already do this, I'm not sure it needs to be part of a GUI specification, although it might be nice. > 5. Font Menus. Why can't I have OpenWindows, or OW applications, > change or resize the font on command, instead of just at startup. Any application clearly can. It turns out however, that this is one of the things that the virtual toolkits you mention usually have to punt on. -- Alfalfa Software, Inc. | Poste: The EMail for Unix nazgul@alfalfa.com | Send Anything... Anywhere 617/646-7703 (voice/fax) | info@alfalfa.com I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.