Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!emory!att!ucbvax!f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG!SKYDIVE From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE) Newsgroups: rec.skydiving Subject: Re: When to push? (Was Re: Near Accident...) Message-ID: <2721.27F0A97B@ehsnet.fidonet.org> Date: 26 Mar 91 20:29:00 GMT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 45 Reply-to: Scott.Traurig@p0.f64.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Scott Traurig) Fido-To: uiucuxc!convex.mitek.com!matt >reserve??) Anyway, no one has ever taught me to deliberately push a >jumper off the step. (Since the only jump plane at my drop zone is a >Beech, I guess we wouldn't emphasize emergency procedures specific to >a Cessna, though.) Chris could have gone for his buddie's backpack, >or he could have pushed him. Are there any other reasonable actions >he could have taken? Is pushing someone *ever* reasonable? I sure >don't know. Now be gentle, I'm new to this discussion.... I don't know either, but was onced faced with a similar situation in an Otter. Our group of 4 was last out, and we were in no hurry so as to give the previous group (12+ way) plenty of room. As the previous group exited I was looking down at my rig for a last check, and when I looked up I saw our middle floater walking casually toward the door trailing his pilot chute! Not wanting to just jump on the pilot chute and possibly open his container, by the time I reached him he was backing out the door, and still no one noticed the pilot chute! Trying to haul this guy back in buy his chest strap was to no avail, he had no clue, and was determined to go skydiving! Just as our rear floater noticed what was going on and moved to help, I changed my tactics and tackled this guy out of the door and off the aircraft. As someone said previously, you should have seen the expression on his face when his parachute deployed. As luck would have it, our rear floater reported to us back on the ground that I and the pilot chute went out the door together. The moral of the story: check your's and everyone elses pilot chutes all the time, not just yours. Our front floater didn't know what was going on until we were all on the ground! Clearly, a less than sufficient safety awareness level. Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are my own! Scott Traurig traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com D-13275 S/L JM 91 --- QuickBBS 2.66 a need for freefall.... --- eecp 1.45 LM2 * Origin: Skydive Over Texas (512)873-9464 FIDO: (1:382/64) -- SKYDIVE - via FidoNet node 1:233/13 (ehsnet.fidonet.org)