Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!gatech!prism!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!sun13!murray From: murray@sun13.scri.fsu.edu (John Murray) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: What are some typical characteristics of mechanical relays? Message-ID: <2651@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 1 Apr 91 18:42:05 GMT References: <2640@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> <1991Apr1.004857.17286@colorado.edu> Organization: SCRI, Florida State University Lines: 38 In article <1991Apr1.004857.17286@colorado.edu> rainer@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Rainer Malzbender) writes: >Hmm...will that be enough ? (Don't feel like doing a Jackson problem >right now :-). For reference, the power requirements of the second >Princeton-MIT mass driver design (a = 5000 m/s^2, vmax = 112 m/s, bucket >mass = 1kg)) were V = 668 volts, Imax = 6315 amps, di/dt = >58.6 amps/microsecond. Run that through your average mechanical relay! Well, the only reason I'm using 40V is my 28V (adjustable 20-40V) 10A (continuous) heavy duty lab power supply. Built for NASA, you could throw it off a bridge with impunity. I thought about a railgun, (better for low voltages) but was discouraged by the sliding-contact problem. >In contrast the first one had an acceleration of 33 g's and used mechanical >switches to trigger the coils, so maybe it's doable. I know there's been >a magnetic-weapon discussion here before, and I don't want to reopen it, >but the Germans had trouble with electromagnetic cannon during >WWII due to melting projectiles. I don't know anything about coil guns, >but their efficiency must be a lot worse than mass drivers, which have >pretty good coupling between drive and bucket coils. Efficiency is not what I'm worried about. This is pretty much an "Amaze Your Friends!" (and amuse myself) project. Also, I guess I could just build half of a mass driver and toss the bucket out of the thing - technically still a coilgun, I guess, since I wouldn't bother decellerating the bucket. Thanks for the hint about how Survival Research Labs did their 200mph molten-iron thrower ;-) >Rainer Malzbender Save a dinosaur - buy DEC. >Dept. of Physics (303)492-6829 -- *Standard Disclaimers Apply*| ---Get Out Of HELL Free!--- John R. Murray |The bearer of this card is entitled to forgive murray@vsjrm.scri.fsu.edu |Himself of all Sins, Errors and Transgressions. Supercomputer Research Inst.| -- D. Owen Rowley