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From: wjf@mvuxn.att.COM (William J Fallon)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist?
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Date: 29 Mar 91 19:36:07 GMT
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In article <JYM.91Mar18145430@remarque.berkeley.edu!. jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
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!. __ Objections that come to my mind are things like the fact that
!.  _ the women are passive objects, that no women look like that in
!.    real life, that the expressions on their faces don't reflect
!.    any genuine emotion or thought, etc.

Some women DO look like that. It helps if you're 19 though.

!. __ And, of course, there's the _Playboy_ lifestyle angle:  the
!.  _ magazine is basically about selling objects (stereos, clothes,
!.    alcohol) to men.  Not exactly the best environment for viewing
!.    women as human beings.

This is my personal primary objection to Playboy. Start at page one
and you see something telling you which stereo to buy, turn the page
and see what kind of car you should drive, then they'll advise you on
how to properly decant a bottle of wine, then there's a feature
showing you what kind of girlfriend you should have. As you say, not
the best environment for viewing women as human beings.

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!. __ At any rate, catalogue your objections in specific terms and
!.  _ let him know about them.  It might help if you're adept at
!.    humor and sarcasm.  At any rate, the idea is to link the
!.    objections to the specific images used in the magazine, so
!.    that when he'll notice the vacant expressions and such in
!.    the photos.  With any luck, this will spoil the fantasy for
!.    him and he won't enjoy _Playboy_ anymore.

Bull. If you really object to it, tell him. If he cares about how you
feel he should find a way to alter his behavior.

!. __ In regard to the subject line, I'm afraid I've never found any
!.  _ graphic erotica that isn't either sexist or as dumb as a bag
!.    of rocks.  The search continues . . .

Try either Yellow Silk or On Our Backs as has been previously suggested.