Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!rex!ukma!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: unknown@athos.rutgers.edu Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: no title given Message-ID: Date: 30 Mar 91 07:38:47 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 51 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , mib@churchy.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell) says: > >And, if the assumption is that being gay is inherently unhappy, or >disappointing, it certainly isn't any worse than being a woman in our >society. It's roughly on a par with being a member of any oppressed >group. This sort of offhand comment about how women are members of an oppressed group makes me curious... I am a woman (I guess, I still feel like a girl, but 22 is rather old for that... =) ) and I simply don't feel oppressed. I've been discriminated against every now and again, but I haven't ever noticed the types of systematic, entrenched problems that the word "oppression" implies. Since a Christian female friend of mine was having a problem with this subject recently, I decided to get some more opinions than just mine. =) (She, BTW, felt that her church and the Bible were inherently discriminatory and therefore could not be accurate reflections of a perfect God. This left two options: either *God was not perfect, or the Bible was not actually about him. I *pointed out a third... that she was not perfect, nor were the other *members of her church, so it's possible that she was merely the *victim of inherently sinful people--like myself and herself. =) ) We must all be careful not to judge God on the standards of some of his representatives here on earth! If everyone judged God by what they saw in me, I don't thik they would be particularly impressed... *Anyway, the point of this is: Do other Christian women feel that *they are being treated in a less loving way because of their gender? *Is this happening within Christian circles, out of Christian circles, *or both? (You will notice that I said "In a a less loving way", not *"differently". That was not an accident, because it's possible to *treat someone differently, but treat them as well, IMHO) All the girls(women) that I know around my age (ie 21) who are christians do sometimes admit to feeling perhaps less 'respected', but this is an attitude from humans, rather than from God IMHO. I respect them more, to be honest, because I find they take God more seriously than the boys(men) of the same age. I am sure you can treat people differently, but without loosing love. God loves us all equally, but doesn't necessarily talk to me the same way he talks to you! * --Jenni Drew (billy@tcom.stc.co.uk) Soon to be, once again.... Drew (ahw1@vms.brighton.ac.uk) Aint Academia wonderful? *************** Generic Disclaimer *****************