Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!stanford.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!primerd!tbird9!danw From: danw@tbird9.prime.com (Dan Westerberg) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Snakebytes (long -- and poisonous?) Message-ID: <1991Apr5.173252@tbird9.prime.com> Date: 5 Apr 91 22:32:52 GMT References: <1996@kuling.UUCP> <32580012@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com> <1991Apr5.183233.26573@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Reply-To: danw@tbird9.prime.com (Dan Westerberg) Organization: Prime Computer Lines: 41 Nntp-Posting-Host: tbird9 In article <1991Apr5.183233.26573@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, clc5q@madras.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman) writes: |> In article <32580012@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com> linley@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Linley Gwennap) writes: |> >I'd like to take a moment to respond to comments that the Series 700 |> >has achieved its high performance due primarily to high (66 MHz) clock |> >frequencies resulting from advanced CMOS processes. While HP's IC |> >processes are as good as anyone's, the Series 700 CPU is implemented |> >in a 1.0 micron, 3-metal-layer CMOS process which is pretty standard |> >throughout the industry. It is nearly identical to IBM's 1.0 micron |> >process used in their 20-30 MHz RS/6000s, and not as dense as the |> >0.8 micron process used in IBM's 41 MHz Model 550. |> |> Maybe you could clarify this for me. I read that the main CPU was 1.0 micron |> geometry and the Texas Instruments floating point coprocessor was 0.8 micron |> from a TI process. It sounds like the floating point unit has a process |> at least as good as any competitors' processes, and the main CPU and cache |> chips are about average for this market segment. Is this right? Please correct me if I'm wrong since I design gate arrays, but are 3-metal-layer processes *average* ? I was under the impression that 3-metal-layer's are on the cutting edge of technology, tough to design and fab, atleast wrt gate arrays. Is this radically different in full-custom design? |> |> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |> "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be |> regarded as a criminal offence." E.W.Dijkstra, 18th June 1975. |> ||| clc5q@virginia.edu (Clark L. Coleman) dan -- =============================================================================== | | | Daniel I. Westerberg email: danw@tbird9.prime.com (or) | | Prime Computer Inc. danw@s49.prime.com | | MS 10-9 | | 500 Old Connecticut Path phone: 508-620-2800 x3644 | | Framingham, MA 10701 fax: 508-879-9098 | | | ===============================================================================