Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ccut!s.u-tokyo!rknss1!rkna50!nttlab!yecl-news!nttcvg!nttvdt!toyosawa From: toyosawa@nttvdt.NTT.JP (Satoshi Toyosawa) Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng Subject: Image syntax Message-ID: <1292@nttvdt.ntt.jp> Date: 9 Apr 91 02:55:20 GMT Sender: news@nttvdt.ntt.jp Distribution: comp Organization: NTT Human Interface Laboratories, Yokosuka, Japan. Lines: 35 Hi, this is my first attemp to post this newsgroup. In article <1991Apr7.184708.22888@colorado.edu> ralex@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Repenning Alexander) writes: >>Maybe part of the problem with picture-oriented representations is >>that, in contrast to English, picture-oriented representations do not >>have any defined syntax. You can of course make up a syntax using >>color, spatial features, explicit relationships (e.g., arcs), etc. That is partially true, and maybe too naive, because film-makers or artists have some kind of techniques to display their feelings and statements in their pictures, drawings, or motion-pictures. For instance, there is a certain movie tech. to show a girl in mental shock. Paintings, too, does have its own grammer, like certain shadowing on a figure developes some kind of effect (depresion, darkness, etc). Oh, BTW, honestly speaking, I don't often understand what a picture trying to state, and don't have skills to tell what technique developes what emotions :-) The thing is that those who have not been trained to appreciate arts have difficulty in describing pictures in definitive way; on the other hand, most of the arts-critics conduct it, and that is the reason of their existence. Maybe one way to introduce syntax or grammer of pictures is to build an expert-system on arts. But if we go so much into generalizing the essence of arts, many of good information such as indescriable feeling and emotion will be lost, however, that maybe the good starting point, I think. Well, the above is my impression. Anyone who has a good taste on arts, please make commonts. -- ---- Satoshi Toyosawa Visual Media Lab., NTT Human Interface Labs. Take 1-2356, Yokosuka, Kanagawa 238-03, Japan e-mail: toyosawa%nttvdt.ntt.jp@relay.cs.net