Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!apple!netcom!jbreeden From: jbreeden@netcom.COM (John Breeden) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: 10BaseT installation Message-ID: <1991Apr5.162511.2145@netcom.COM> Date: 5 Apr 91 16:25:11 GMT References: <5438@durin.sparta.COM> <14069@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <821@hwsw.gedas.de> Organization: Netcom - Somewhere in the S.F. Bay Area Lines: 48 In article <821@hwsw.gedas.de> rainer@hwsw.gedas.de (Rainer Raupach) writes: >(stuff deleted) > >|> As to why 10BASE-T uses an RJ-45, I know of a couple of reasons, but I >|> don't know that any of them are "official." First and most important, >|> it's to keep people from plugging their phones into data jacks, and >|> vice versa. Secondly, it's to allow for people in the future plugging >|> their phones into data jacks, but making it work. You'll find that >|> ISDN normally uses pins 4, 5, 7, and 8. >|> >|> -Bill Woodcock >|> BMUG NetAdmin > >Additional to these reasons, there are some more: >AT&T uses some more pins to include some other features, like >SQE-testing and link integrity testing. I really don't know, if >those features are part of the 10 Base T - standard. > RJ45s are used because the original concept of 10baseT was to use the exist- ing TELEPHONE wiring - and there's been a TELEPHONE wiring standard in use for years now .... AT&T's PDS (Premise Distribution System). PDS states that pins 4,5,7 & 8 are for voice and 1,2,3 & 6 are for data (pin 1 is on the extreme left when viewing a RJ45 head on with the little clippy thing pointing down). How prevelent is the use of this standard? Look at any install over the past 10 years of an AT&T, Northern Telecom or Rolm PBX and the wiring is PDS standard (I think these three should represent about 90% of the big PBX installs). The PDS wiring standard was also picked up as the wiring to the desk for ISDN (B channel). It also includes a "standard" for transporting both async and sync terminal traffic over the same 4 pair UTP. AT&T recently introduced a UTP "super wire" that they claim will transport 16 mb token ring for 300 feet using the same 2 data pairs. -- John Robert Breeden, jbreeden@netcom.com, apple!netcom!jbreeden, ATTMAIL:!jbreeden ------------------------------------------------------------------- "The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from. If you don't like any of them, you just wait for next year's model."