Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!noc.MR.NET!jhereg!andrew From: andrew@jhereg.osa.com (Andrew C. Esh) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: 10BaseT installation Summary: This is correct. Message-ID: <1991Apr9.143743.4612@jhereg.osa.com> Date: 9 Apr 91 14:37:43 GMT Article-I.D.: jhereg.1991Apr9.143743.4612 References: <1991Apr5.105804.24270@hellgate.utah.edu> Sender: Andrew C. Esh Organization: Open Systems Architects, Inc., Mpls, MN Lines: 36 In article <1991Apr5.105804.24270@hellgate.utah.edu> zeleznik@cs.utah.edu (Mike Zeleznik) writes: >> >>AT&T uses some more pins to include some other features, like >>SQE-testing and link integrity testing. I really don't know, if >>those features are part of the 10 Base T - standard. >> >>Rgds Rainer > >Are they using the extra pins to remotely control these features of the >transceiver? Otherwise, I don't see the need for more lines/pins. > >I thought that link integrity is handled simply by transmitting a >low-duty-cycle pulse on the xmit pair when there is no other activity, and >seeing if it comes back on the receive pair. This would not require any >additional lines/pins. > >The SQE signal, and the integrity test of its line, occur on the other side >of the transceiver, so how would this require more lines/pins on the >physical network? > >Mike > > Michael Zeleznik zeleznik@cs.utah.edu 801-581-5617 As far as I know, the above is correct. As a matter of fact, the Link Pulse is required in order to conform to the 10baseT spec. A hub that is in spec will not work with a transceiver that either does not do the link pulse, or has it turned off. "Twisted Pair" tranceivers, which are pre-10baseT will not work with the new hubs. All this occurs on pairs 1-2, 3-6 only, since that's all we bothered to punch down here. :-) -- Andrew C. Esh andrew@osa.com Open Systems Architects, Inc. Minneapolis, MN 55416-1528 (612) 525-0000 Practicing the OSI Standard