Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!dandb From: dandb+@cs.cmu.edu (Dean Rubine) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Autocorrelation Pitch Tracker Message-ID: <1991Apr7.040723.1252@cs.cmu.edu> Date: 7 Apr 91 04:07:23 GMT References: <78395@bu.edu.bu.edu> <1991Apr6.062906.11886@cs.cmu.edu> <51258@apple.Apple.COM> Sender: netnews@cs.cmu.edu (USENET News Group Software) Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 30 In article <51258@apple.Apple.COM> malcolm@Apple.COM (Malcolm Slaney) writes: >Everybody here has really been talking about periodicity detectors and NOT >pitch detection. Come, now. I think most of us realize that pitch is a perceptual quantity, or would if we thought or read about it a bit. That doesn't lessen the desire to solve a practical problem: determine the instantaneous fundamental frequency at successive points in a quasi-periodic signal. Of course even this problem statement is too vague, but it's probably good enough, because it's usually considered as a means to some end. For example, the original poster might be building a real-time transcription system for vocalists. Or a system that listens to a trumpet and synthesizes an accompaniment. Or a better pitch-to-MIDI converter. Note I've used the term "pitch" here, even though I am not overly concerned about perception. I'm just going along with the rest of the world, as was the original poster. Face it, these things are called "pitch detectors" even though the use of the term "pitch" may be technically incorrect. While pitch detectors may be judged on how often they report the same pitch as a skilled human would, in most applications the hard cases, where perception is ambiguous, can be ignored. As for his short signal not having a perceptable pitch, that may be true but that still doesn't help him to solve his problem. He knows what he means by pitch, as do the rest of us, even Maclcom Slaney I suspect. -- ARPA: Dean.Rubine@CS.CMU.EDU PHONE: 412-268-2613 [ Free if you call from work ] US MAIL: Computer Science Dept / Carnegie Mellon U / Pittsburgh PA 15213 DISCLAIMER: My employer wishes I would stop posting and do some work.