Newsgroups: comp.editors Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca!mroussel From: mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) Subject: Re: Let's Talk Keyboards! Message-ID: <1991Apr4.053509.17285@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Toronto References: <1991Apr2.104658.1@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1991 05:35:09 GMT I'm going to sound silly in public again... Oh well. I like the Commodore 64 keyboard. It's not perfect, but it's a nice keyboard for a programmer. Many of the keys that I use most often are in awful places on most keyboards. You have to shift to get +, *, and ^ for instance. (I don't need to tell you how often + and * are used; ^ is useful to me both for Maple and in the C-shell.) Not on the C64! The @ key is also a "natural" on this keyboard (nice for email, among other things). I also count as a plus that the return key isn't too big, but I realize that others will disagree with me violently on this. It does have some flaws however. There are no {, }, `, _ and \ keys. (Other keys are mapped into these characters in software. The placement is therefore different for just about every program you use.) The characters " and ' are in their typewriter positions. (I can live with that since I learned to touch typing on a typewriter. Others aren't so forgiving.) I find that the proper placement of + and * more than make up for other deficiencies however. All in all, I think that with some minor adjustments, the C64 keyboard could be a very productive one for programmers. The C64 itself may be a toy, but its keyboard certainly isn't. Sincerely, Marc R. Roussel mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca