Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!stanford.edu!agate!eos!data.nas.nasa.gov!wilbur.nas.nasa.gov!eugene From: eugene@nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.visualization Subject: Re: Out of the lab, into the classroom Keywords: reuse fabulous Message-ID: <1991Apr8.175119.15340@nas.nasa.gov> Date: 8 Apr 91 17:51:19 GMT References: <1991Apr2.202227.13796@agate.berkeley.edu> <18252@crdgw1.crd.ge.com> <1991Apr5.212903.8978@nas.nasa.gov> <221@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp> Sender: news@nas.nasa.gov Reply-To: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA Lines: 47 In article <221@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp> will@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp (will) writes: >I wrote: >Dr. E. A. Feigenbaum..... We agree on something. 8^) > > Particle accel. and supercomputers have military applications so it is >resonable to expect funding. As far as space missions and telescopes (I will >assume you mean Hubble) ALL COMPUTERS WERE DERIVED FROM military funding..... Most PAs not. Hubble? No, there are several dozen telescope projects in this country. Airborne, the Keck (bulding dedicated by a friend from Caltech), etc. >almost killed Hubble many times in the past. Mapping a human gene, well, yes, >the U.S. is involved, but I ask some proffesors here and they say most of this >is being done outside the U.S. So, were is this dream of Big Science? The >U.S. economy can no longer fund Science or Basic Research, that is why our >President goes to Japan to beg for money. So you can keep your Job. This is an interesting non-visualization oriented article. If you want to study, get a copy of The Politics of Pure Science by Greenberg. Back the benchmarking and visualization. Oh, one last thing, not related to this specific article. I have a copy of a SIAM News cartoon, I plan to see if Pixel will reproduce it. This assumes people know what SIAM is (an applied math society). The cartoon is entitled "The Mind Adventures of Just Plain Tim" which takes a swipe at imagery and pictures. Frame 2 "But he was angered by a hostile educational system..." shows Tim reading a book "A Books of Words" He's saying, "Words! No pictures or nothing! Yuck-o here's a picture. Why ain't it movin?" Frame 3 "That continuted even through college." Tim studying over a book He comment includes "What's a physic anyway?" An undercurrent against visualization exists, and it is not lacking some justification. Developers of visualization software must get their act together. --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene