Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!umriscc!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!mac From: mac@cis.ksu.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: Our favorite language Message-ID: <1991Apr5.202916.15324@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> Date: 5 Apr 91 20:29:16 GMT References: <16149@chaph.usc.edu> <1991Apr5.175526.15598@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Sender: news@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu (The News Guru) Organization: Kansas State University Lines: 39 In article <16149@chaph.usc.edu>, echeverr@sal-sun8.usc.edu writes: > Excuse me, but is it just me, or is fortran a language so old it is becoming > obsolescent? Really, i just can't handle doing programs while tripping over > small details and phantom errors from nowhere and tricky compilations and > core dump after core dump after execution... One of my colleagues who doesn't read this group had this to say about this thread: >I wonder whether the language addicts can step away far enough from >their addictions to see what they are hollering about. >The fortran addicts are hooked on fortran because it gives them >the freedom (and the responsibility) to do 'risky' things, i.e. >the freedom do do (almost) anything the machine can be made to do. >They may have to pay the price by reading crash dumps in hex ... >The 'structured-language' addicts are addicted (not to misnamed >'structured languages' but) to structured code, because they can build >or buy compilers that can proofread much of that code for adherence >to a safety dogma (thou shalt not do arithmetic on address variables; >thou shalt not compare characters to cardinals ...). Those addicts >have forfeited their claims to freedom in exchange for the promised >land of make-believe correctness .... >Just as adherence to style guides guarantees uniformly mediocre >(mass-produced?) 'correct prose' so use of 'structured languages' >guarantees 'stodgy but reliable code'. Neither style guides nor >structured languages leave room for genius. Because genius is scarce >and style guides and structured languages are popular, both claim to let >people join the select class of genius without paying the entry fee. --Myron. -- # Myron A. Calhoun, Ph.D. E.E.; Associate Professor (913) 539-4448 home # INTERNET: mac@cis.ksu.edu (129.130.10.2) 532-6350 work # UUCP: ...rutgers!ksuvax1!harry!mac 532-7353 fax # AT&T Mail: attmail!ksuvax1!mac W0PBV @ K0VAY.KS.USA.NA