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From: Will@cup.portal.com (Will E Estes)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Real world objects?
Message-ID: <41063@cup.portal.com>
Date: 8 Apr 91 20:39:30 GMT
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<The other thing we need is some copyleft tools or at least reasonably
<priced tools for configuration management. It seems to take some time
<before people realize that the Class is not the unit of delivery in OO
<systems. A toolkit or application is delivered as a bunch of methods on a
<number of classes which may depend on another toolkit - some people call
<these thingummys frameworks or applications.
<
<Version control is also a pain in the .... .

Both excellent observations IMHO.  Add to the list of things we need:

- a serious attempt at graphics (Actor's Object Graphics is an example)
- an ISAM database manager
- a better debugger (something along the lines of Codeview for an
  interpreter)

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