Xref: utzoo news.admin:13197 comp.mail.uucp:6347 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!caen!uwm.edu!lll-winken!aunro!ukma!dftsrv!mimsy!nocusuhs!nmrdc1!minixug!waltje From: waltje@minixug.mugnet.org (Fred 'The Rebel' van Kempen) Newsgroups: news.admin,comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: French sites directly connected to USA cannot Message-ID: <9104075160@minixug.mugnet.org> Date: 7 Apr 91 15:17:52 GMT References: Organization: MINIX User Group Holland (NLMUG) - MUGNET - Lines: 55 urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs) wrote: > In news.admin, article , > pleasant@porthos.rutgers.edu (Mel Pleasant) writes: > < The UUCP Mapping Project is in the process of establishing direct uucp > < connections with the French, German and Israeli groups interested in posting > < their own logical regional maps. Add MUGNET to this list, please... > The German part would be interested; however, a couple of "incompatibilities" > between our local map and the rest of the world, which would have to be > addressed first and I would like some input as to how others have solved > these problems. Not on our side. We maintain stricly "UUCPMAP" conforming maps, with one extra file (u.mug.0) to define the gateways to other nets. This file can be skipped when a full set of maps is used, like I myself do. > 1- Since our maps currently are totally independent, a few duplicate names > have crept in. > Solution? Kick these guys out of our maps? Maintain two maps, one > (external) with the duplicates removed? Matthias, I suggested this before: create an extra "gateways and other garbage" map file, which is ONLY to be used from within SubNetz. All other networks (like mine :-) can then skip that file... > 2- There exist some links between sites in "our" map and sites in the > "official" German map. Some of these cost real money and should either be > marked terminal or deleted from the global maps. This also tends to > indicate a necessity to split the maps into inter- and intra-network parts. Yes, same here. Just define them DEAD. Since DEAD is always less expensive than not-at-all (i.e. for the SubNetz-only maps), that route will be followed anyway from people within SubNetz. We do the same trick here with some sites (can't tell their names because of bloody EUnet policies).. > 3- The official German maps consist mostly of entries marked HOURLY. > That tends to warp the routing decisions. :-( > This problem is aggravated by item 2, above. > In other countries, it's even worse; in France, for instance, all links > from inria.fr to other French sites are HOURLY, but there's no registered > back link -- pathalias considers these to be DEAD. The French maps are a bad joke, we all know that. However, some people ARE working on that now... > In the interest of avoiding flame wars about how to resolve these problems > and incompatibilities, please mail comments to me; I'll summarize. I did that, but posted it as well for general interest. Besides, people asked me to do so... Fred. +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | MINIX User Group Holland UUCP: waltje@minixug.mugnet.org | | c/o Fred van Kempen, or: waltje%minixug@plains.nodak.edu | | Hoefbladhof 27 | | 2215 DV VOORHOUT "Love is - what you want it to be. | | The Netherlands Alannah Myles" | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+