Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!samsung!rex!uflorida!gatech!emory!dixie.com!meo From: meo@Dixie.Com (Miles ONeal) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: (In)security of passwords Message-ID: <9336@rsiatl.Dixie.Com> Date: 7 Apr 91 03:41:16 GMT Organization: Systems & Software Solutions, Inc. Lines: 29 Using non-letters in place of letters in long words can work well, too, if you avoid obvious words especially. Try to use a random substitution scheme as well - otherwise you just end up with a different set of 26 characters. Examples: $+alker (stalker) - not for use by hunters, outdoors types, etc a!1enate (alienate) - random word for most of us p0tpurr1 (potpurri) - good password for a macho man If you combine this with things such as using the recently suggested quote-1st-letters approach, or the inner parts of long words (hern0BY| - from chernobyl), mixed case, etc, you end up with essentially random collections of the printable parts of the ASCII character set. Phonetic spellings, uncommon words from the OED or Webster's Unabridged, that aren't in /usr/lib/dict or wherever - the possibilities are not infinite, but they are close enough for most people. CavenewT is not a good password for a talk.bizarre type. Secur1+e, while ok, is not the best one for Phil Ronzone. You get the idea. -Miles meo@dixie.com