Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!midway!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!npd.novell.com!newsun!tporczyk From: tporczyk@na.excelan.com (Tony Porczyk) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: EFF Chapters Keywords: EFF college academia chapters Message-ID: <1991Apr3.223200.9420@novell.com> Date: 6 Apr 91 07:42:13 GMT Sender: news@novell.com ( Lines: 25 The News Manager) Nntp-Posting-Host: na Reply-To: tporczyk@na.excelan.com (Tony Porczyk) Organization: Standard Disclaimer References: <1991Mar19.213148.14254@vpnet.chi.il.us> <669491914.4141@mindcraft.com> <7846@hsv3.UUCP> <1991Mar26.164325.2631@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <1991Apr1.061003.18924@isis.cs.du.edu> <670552208.6477@mindcraft.com> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1991 22:32:00 GMT In article <670552208.6477@mindcraft.com> karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish) writes: >In article <1991Apr1.061003.18924@isis.cs.du.edu> swoodcoc@isis.UUCP >(Steven Markus Woodcock) writes: >> With all due respect, Mr. Bates, your organization lost MY respect when >>it came down against the SDI concept, favoring the demonstrably amoral >>M.A.D. doctrine over M.A.S. (Mutually Assured Survival). > >It takes some pretty tricky moral gymnastics to deny to oneself >that a fully functional `defensive' system would also be a potent >tool in an offensive setting. I see no clear-cut moral distinction >between the two concepts. So you see no difference between a scud and a patriot? And it takes tricky moral gymnastics for you to figure that out. And you see no clear cut moral distinctions between defense and an indiscriminate weapon of terror. I think you just broke a record in my book of intellectual rape on oneself a person would commit to justify his ideology. Tony