Xref: utzoo alt.privacy:255 comp.org.eff.talk:1975 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!hoss!hoss.unl.edu!greg From: greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Information Hiding (was: Re: Caller ID problems) Keywords: Caller ID Message-ID: <1991Apr06.200706.26190@hoss.unl.edu> Date: 6 Apr 91 20:07:06 GMT References: <13801@asylum.SF.CA.US> <1991Mar29.154847.16915@engin.umich.edu> <1991Mar29.195940.12006@eng.umd.edu> <1991Mar30.194145.4202@netcom.COM> Sender: news@hoss.unl.edu (Network News Administer) Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln Lines: 48 ... edg@netcom.COM (Ed Greenberg) writes: >... ziegast@eng.umd.edu (Eric W. Ziegast) writes: >>6. The Caller ID compatable answering machine >I want one of these :-) This is an idea I've been thinking of. Why should the person see the number? Make it automated, and don't reveal numbers. You program your phone with known numbers you want to have ring specially. Others behave normally. You have the option of taking a call, deciding you never want to be contacted by that person again, and make the equivalent of a KILL file for that number. You need not know the number. You could also have a setup to automatically inform police officials of the offending call, who would be cleared for specific number information. This also allows for call-back ability, to be able to connect back to the originating caller, without needing to know the number, and other enhanced features. This provides the security that the receiver wants, while not infringing on the rights of the caller by having numbers visible. In this case, having visible numbers should be an expensive ability, and must be shown as necessary on a case-by-case basis. Stiff penalties for patching into the information without authorization, and even more stiff for abuse of obtained numbers, especially when illegally obtained. In the Domino's Pizza realm, they don't need the number displayed. They still ask for the number (standard procedure), then punch in that number. If it matches, it says so. If not, it says it doesn't, but doesn`t give out the real number. The electronics will only let you know as much as you need to know. They know more themselves, but they won't tell you everything. >-- >Ed Greenberg | Home: +1 408 283 0184 | edg@netcom.com >P. O. Box 28618 | Work: +1 408 764 5305 | CIS: 76703,1070 >San Jose, CA 95159 | Fax: +1 408 764 5003 | WB2GOH @ N6LDL.CA.USA A setup like that (which someone should have already thought of, and probably has) would be what should be put in. Freedoms currently exercised aren't infringed, and you get the enhanced abilities. -- /// ____ \\\ "It says, `Golgafrincham Ark Fleet, Ship B, Hold 7, Telephone | |/ / \ \| | Sanitizer, Second Class,' and a serial number." "A telephone \\_(\____/)_// sanitizer? A dead telephone sanitizer?" "Best greg \_\\\/ hoss.unl.edu kind." "But what's he doing here?" "Not a lot."