Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!sun-barr!ccut!twics!jefu From: jefu@twics.co.jp (Jeffrey Shapard) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: EFF Chapters Message-ID: <3499@twics.co.jp> Date: 6 Apr 91 11:02:10 GMT References: <1991Mar18.214218.29444@vpnet.chi.il.us> <18668@milton.u.washington.edu> <1991Mar19.211732.14152@vpnet.chi.il.us> <1991Mar19.213148.14254@vpnet.chi.il.us> Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan Lines: 44 While one approach would be to set up EFF chapters whenever you have enough people to call it such (how many is that?), it seems to me to be appropriate to AFFILIATE with other groups and organizations, professional and otherwise, which have members that share common concerns. And the concerns of the EFF _should_ be the concerns of all of us in this medium and all of those associated with computers or telecom in any capacity. And whether you are on the "right" side or the "wrong" side -- supply your own definitions of these values. The relationship betwee the EFF and the CPSR, and their cooperation in pulling together one helluva conference in San Francisco -- and one which brought together folks from almost all sides of the issues, cops and hackers, DAs and lawyers, sysops and users, law-makers and law-breakers, the whole range -- is a good model. If you personally do not like the overall tone or agenda of the CPSR chapters, then what about other organizations you are involved in? What about appropriate SIGs of the ACM? What about the EMA, the ENA, the VIA and all those other acronym orgs out there? I always feel a bit distraught when I see a new group arise and calls for yet another organization (I call it the UN Syndrome), when it may be more appropriate to work with and between other existing groups with shared concerns. Hey, isn't that what networking is all about? I would like to see the EFF here in Tokyo, but it would be a lot more effective if we could involve folks in/from other groups, rather than just having a dozen of us off in the back booth of a coffee shop talking into the wind. This newsgroup, by the way, is carried on major nodes of JUNET, Japan's largest internet, but I have yet to see anyone else fro other sites here say a thing... though the issues raised are certainly relevant to the Japanese context as well. The electronic frontier is booming in the land of the rising sun. --jefu * Jeffrey Shapard "Connectivity * * Connect-activist and Operations Director, TWICS, Tokyo is our biz..." *