Xref: utzoo comp.os.msdos.misc:1670 comp.os.msdos.apps:1580 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zazen!news From: oper@vms.macc.wisc.edu (MACC Operator) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps Subject: Re: Window 3.0 is a Pain Message-ID: <1991Apr5.050936.2066@macc.wisc.edu> Date: 5 Apr 91 05:00:43 GMT Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Distribution: usa Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center Lines: 67 In article <1991Apr1.203804.7525@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, smsmith@hpuxa.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M. Smith) writes... >In article <2151@minnow.sp.unisys.com> lee@minnow.UUCP (Gene Lee) writes: >> >>I have been trying to load windows 3.0 on my new DTK 486/25 with no luck. >>Windows runs fine if I put it in Real or Standard mode but if I try to >>run it in Enhanced mode it dies. The worst thing about it is that it >>does not print any error messages, it just goes back to the DOS prompt >>while the opening logo screen is still up. >> [deletions] >>At this point I'm getting really pissed off at windows and am considering >>buying Desqview (any opions on that). If anyone has any ideas I'd love >>to here them; I don't want to have spent $99 for nothing. >> [system hardware deleted] >>I've tried adding this lines to the windows SYSTEM.INI file >>EMMEXCLUDE=C400-C7FF >> >>but it didn't help. >> >>I'd like to hear from anyone with suggestions on getting win3.0 to work >>or from anyone with experience on Desqview that would like to convince >>me to say the hell with windows. >>Gene Lee UUCP: ...!uunet!s5000!minnow!lee >>Phone: (612) 635-7147 CSNET: lee@minnow.SP.Unisys.Com > >Windows 3.0 came bundled with my system, but I went ahead and bought >Desqview 386 based on numerous comments from netland. I haven't >tried multitasking DOS programs in Windows because Desqview does >such a good job of that. I use Windows for "fun" stuff only right >now: .bmp images, .rol sound files for my Soundblaster, Fractint for >Windows, Solitaire, Chess, etc. Remember that you can run Windows >inside Desqview, but only in Standard or Real mode, and in no >higher resolution than standard VGA. > >The neatest thing about Desqview 386 is that it now comes bundled >with QEMM (the BEST extended memory manager on the market) and >Manifest (the BEST system analyzer on the market--check out PC >Mag's recent review). Manifest is GREAT! You can see exactly >how your memory is being utilized by each program, you can solve >memory conflicts, DMA conflicts, interrupt conflicts, benchmark >your memory, check CMOS setup and environment setup, look at >all your BIOS addresses, etc., etc.--this program is GREAT, and >it runs outside of Desqview as well as within a window under >Desqview. > >I run Windows in Enhanced mode with QEMM loaded, and it works >absolutely flawlessly. You not only can place all your drivers >in high memory (smartdrive, mouse, etc.--even "files=" and >"buffers=") but you can also put them just where you want them >to be in high ram. QEMM and Windows 3.0 is really the best >combination, even if you don't use Desqview. I run Windows the same way (w/ QEMM) and agree that the performance is nearly flawless. QEMM is much better than HIMEM.SYS (Incidentally I think Hyperdisk 4.20 is better than Smartdrive). I'm using a Gateway 2000 486-25. >Stephen M. Smith \ + / >,,@ > ircc.ohio-state. \ + / {7%*@,..":27g)-=,#*:.#,/6&1*.4-,l@#9:-) " > edu> \ + / > BTW, WYSInaWYG \ + / --witty.saying.ARC gregg@macc.wisc.edu