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From: bondc@spdcc.COM (Tezcatlipocateopixque)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Using Extended Memory for Expanded Memory
Keywords: Extended Expanded Memory
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Date: 6 Apr 91 17:56:10 GMT
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In article <14235@hacgate.UUCP> ferris@tcville.HAC.COM () writes:

>I'd like to do this, but don't know what software I need to do this.
>What is out there that will enable me to use extended memory as expanded
>memory?

Since email bounced:

In article <14235@hacgate.UUCP> you write:

>I have looked through the simtel archives, and found a couple programs
>that would install an expanded memory driver and use either disk or
>extended memory for the memory.  However, they also allocate a 64k
>block of memory for the expanded memory pages, and I don't think that's
>what I want.  Is the 64k memory block an unavoidable penalty I must pay
>to get this extended <-> expanded memory swap?  There must be 
>other people in this same situation, so anybody know the solutions?

The 64k block *IS* the expanded memory -- if you don't have the block,
you don't have expanded memory at all.

Expanded memory is a method of "extending" DOS memory.  DOS cannot
address memory above 1 meg, at all, never, period the end.  What
expanded memory does is take physical memory above 1 meg and breaks it
into 64k blocks.  The blocks are shuffled in and out of a 64k address
space *below 1 meg* so that the computer is using the additional
memory without seeing any above that 1 meg barrier.  That's LIM-EMS.

There is also EEMS expanded memory -- which, btw, is what you want if
you're running Desqview on a non-386 processor.  EEMS uses the same
principle as LIM-EMS, but is not limited to a 64k memory window.

You have the right software, perhaps; some of the EMS emulators work
better than others, and some work with some programs and not with
others, etc.

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