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From: brianb@kinetics.com (Brian Bulkowski)
Subject: Re: Mail Systems
Message-ID: <1991Apr2.192824.20583@novell.com>
Followup-To: brianb@wc.novell.com (Brian Bulkowski) 
Summary: Yechy PC networking, Mac Mail software 
Keywords: Mail, PCs, networking
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References: <Added.gbw9qqO00UkTQ7iE8Z@andrew.cmu.edu> <1991Apr2.152611.26499@cs.utk.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1991 19:28:24 GMT
Expires: 04-15-91 

Beg to differ, but IMHO Novell is extremely scaleable and friendly.
Netware 286 is a bit of a pain to set up, but 386 is a breeze.
The new 2.2 is supposed to be better, but I haven't seen it yet.
Also, we have the first reasonable huge scale AFP server implimentation.
The folks who brought you the fastpath have been working hard, and
even though it's a first generation product it's something to be proud
of. You can run it on one of those overexpensive system pros, the one
that I saw with 21 gig of disk and 120 MB of RAM. Basically replace a 
mainframe. And scalebility - well, we have 300+ PC servers on our net,
and run TCP/IP, AppleTalk, and IPX long haul between 5 geographically
disperse sites. Remote development, it's called. We have guys I work with
in Utah who bop down and work on code in my server. I call that friendly
and scaleable. But I'm a techie, what do I know :-)?

But this isn't the place to discuss PC networking, eh?

A friend of mine did a cross cultural comparsion of mail packages,
and was unimpressed with QuickMail's ability to fit in with SMTP,
and with it's 256 *256 messages maximum storage capacity. He was
more impressed with a package called Eudora, which is from one of
those prolific universities like CMU or Michigan or something like that.
It works directly on TCP/IP. It won't make much sense unless the shop
has a lot of TCP/IP in place. Does anyone out there know more about
this package? My friend is quite a student of user interfaces,
and I trust him to be quite picky about details (tho quite a TCP bigot :-).

Ciao, dudes
BrianB
brianb@wc.novell.com


In article <1991Apr2.152611.26499@cs.utk.edu> wnn@ornl.gov writes:
>
>QuickMail still is the most flexible and powerful mail system on the Mac.
>There is a PC implementation, called PC QuickMail, but it doesn't work as
>smoothly as the Mac version.  However, a new release is supposed to come out
>soon.
>
>If you have hundreds of PCs, you probably want to look into Banyan Vines rather
>than Novell, since Vines is much more scalable, user-friendly, and
>administrable in large multi-server networks. Vines has a very good built-in
>mail system. Banyan also has a Vines mail to QuickMail bridge. They are about
>to introduce a Mac Vines package.
>
>Wolfgang N. Naegeli
>University of Tennessee & Oak Ridge National Laboratory
>Internet: wnn@ornl.gov    Bitnet: wnn@ornlstc
>Phone: 615-574-6143       Fax: 615-574-6141 (MacFax)
>QuickMail (QM-QM): Wolfgang Naegeli @ 615-574-4510