Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!gblock From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT/Amiga Flamage: Get a life. Message-ID: <10867@uwm.edu> Date: 8 Apr 91 19:36:27 GMT References: Sender: news@uwm.edu Reply-To: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Lines: 49 Originator: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu From article , by melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger): > > Hmmm. You might just be coming around. The Amiga interface doesn't > need to be any snappier(do need 2.0 ROMs on all machines), but now you > might want to add a little more functionality to the machine by adding > Adobe Fonts and Display Postscript. This might mean a little more to > people than the speed of the GUI. After a certain speed, the speed of > the GUI really doens't matter that much. I was referring to 1.3 being snappier than your NeXt. And I think 2.0 looks better than your NeXT. Yes, it's missing things. Okay, it's missing CompuGraphic scaled fonts. it's on its way. And VM is available. Okay. Fine. But on an EFFICIENT system, the GUI doesn't matter. The next is FAR from efficient, and you know it. It's intuitive, and nice-looking. But it's a kludge on the os, not an integrated part of the os. > I'm typing on an 8MB NeXT right now, and the performance IS > ACCEPTABLE. But being the kind of guy that I am, I want more more Well, than again, if I'm going to pay umteen dollars for a system, it had better be a HELL of a lot more than just "acceptable". Every user has the potential to be a "power user"., and it shouldn't cost more to be able to have that power. > > Well, you are running out of computers that don't have virtual memory. > In a few years their won't be any left. By the way, all workstations > have virtual memory, are they "bad" in your book? > What happens if you stop using VM on a NeXT? Can you? If so, try it, and see how far it gets you. And yes, all workstations have VM. How nifty. But of course, most REAL workstations are H-S Risc boxes... Not a portable toaster. And how many REAL workstations have PS as part of the display system? I grow weary of the NeXT debate... The NeXt is nice, but it has severe faults... And no, I'd rather NOT get into details, as I'm sure Peter has already shown you ten of them... And there will be more, as long as this debate rages on. Amiga owners have a 512k (at most) system that is loaded from a rom, not a multi-megabyte throat-cutting os that takes more cpu cycles than a raytracer... -- - gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu - | IBM's brain is on overload, and Apple Gregory Block | needs to be potty-trained. C= may not Toaster+Amiga=The One True DTV | be marketing geniuses, but theyre the ________________________________| best engineers I've seen... -Wubba