Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu From: greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT/Amiga Flamage: Get a life. Message-ID: <46901@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 9 Apr 91 06:52:32 GMT References: <46833@ut-emx.uucp> <1991Apr8.183809.16056@cs.cornell.edu> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Reply-To: greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp) Organization: The University of Texas at Austin Lines: 47 In article melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: > >In article <1991Apr8.183809.16056@cs.cornell.edu> johnhlee@CS.Cornell.EDU (John H. Lee) writes: > > I use the Unix shell, vi, VMS DCL and LSE for almost all of my for-pay > and school work. You can't tell me that I'm just as productive on a NeXT > (that I'm forced to use for a class) as I am on a X Window workstation ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^ ^^^^^ > or my A2000. Almost everybody in my class (Practical Distributed O/S > Systems) develops the solution to assignments on other computers > (workstations) and then does the final execution on the NeXTs. > >Why do you even run your program on the NeXT if you develop it on >another system, and why would you be more productive on a X Window >workstation? I dunno, Mike. Why do you think he runs it on the NeXT? >I used Emacs so I really don't have multiple windows for development. >I bagged vi several years ago. I do have several shells opened up, >though, so I can log onto other machines. The slowness of the GUI is >attributed to swapping to disk, it isn't a reflection of Display >Postscript. If you lauch 5 different things and you run out of real >memory, there is no alternative except for the system to page. For a NeXT developer you need to learn a bit more about Unix. NeXTStep is a pig. Check into how much memory you are using just after getting the system up and running. Along with the non-microkernel Mach you've got a big memory demand there. BTW, I have a 640x440 2 bitplane Workbench with 5 windows open and a separate 640x200 3 bitplane screen open. I have 26 tasks (things from filesystems to this particular window of DNet, the terminal package I use) running. Altogther I'm using 1.3 megabytes of memory, including resident commands and my RAM Disk. Even with the Aquarium archive database program searching for a particular program (that's what's on the other screen) there is no percieved loss of speed. Once again, this is a 7.14Mhz 68K machine... >-Mike Greg -- Greg Harp |"How I wish, how I wish you were here. We're just two |lost souls swimming in a fishbowl, year after year, greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu|running over the same ground. What have we found? s609@cs.utexas.edu |The same old fears. Wish you were here." - Pink Floyd