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From: bombadil@diku.dk (Kristian Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Lemmings - a tutorial Part IV
Message-ID: <1991Apr8.155756.26602@odin.diku.dk>
Date: 8 Apr 91 15:57:56 GMT
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hbrinch@icoast.UUCP (Henrik Brinch) writes:

>In article <1991Apr5.182933.27393@odin.diku.dk>, Kristian Nielsen writes:

>>   WARNING! AsmOne is *NOT* anyway near GenIm2 compatible. I resently had to
>> convert a small (<20k) source from GenIm2 to AsmOne. However, problems with
>> INCBIN, SECTION statements and label expansion ('\<label>' - stuff) caused
>> me to give up after hours and hours of work.

>WARNING PIRATE COPY!
>If you've bought AsmOne you would get the upgrade to the latest version where
>these MISTAKES has been fixed.

   Well, I wouldn't know about this - the 'port' was done at a friend (SICK
excuse, but in this case also true). If you want to see the source (to check
if all problems are gone, which would seriously impress me), I can easily
email the source to you.

>>   In my opinion, AsmOne is an (admittedly much) improved Seka-clone intended
>> for hardware-level programming on a stock A500/2000, and it shows. Others

>Maybe, maybe not!

>> opinion may be different. But don't think that AsmOne comes anyway near to
>> GenIm2 compatibility - it doesn't.

>I've been programming DevPac for a long time (UNTIL I GOT AN A3000!)
>and I've NO problems with AsmOne!

>>   Sorry to post yet another article in this group, but I felt I had to do
>> Hisoft some justice. I personally love their products.

>I certainly don't - They can't even make them run on 680x0 machines and
>they say it IS also a 680x0 assembler!!!!
  I think I've heard of an earlier version that had some bugs in connection
with 680x0, x>=1, but that this was fixed in a later release. Didn't you
recieve an offer for an upgrade?

  I'll admit that I was comming on a little hard criticising AsmOne. I still
maintain, however, that AsmOne is based VERY heavily on Seka - command line
interface, ESC key to enter editor; hell, even the menu-shortcuts are taken
from the Seka-assembler! And having to statically allocate workspace memory
at start-up is really unprofessional compared to most other programs (except
Word Perfect :-). However, for stand-alone assembler programs on small (or
even any) amiga system, it might be the perfect choice. For programmers who
also whish to develoop large projects in C and assembler, it probably isn't
(how about make?). And I still seriously doubt that AsmOne in any version is
100% GenIm2 compatible (however if you want to dispute this, please try out
some of my sources first, if possible).

 	Kristian