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From: hanche@imf.unit.no (Harald Hanche-Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: ftn 10.8.p serious problems / tirade (again)
Message-ID: <HANCHE.91Apr5200543@hufsa.imf.unit.no>
Date: 5 Apr 91 18:05:43 GMT
References: <1991Apr3.230735.9578@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
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In-Reply-To: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca's message of 3 Apr 91 23:07:35 GMT

In article <1991Apr3.230735.9578@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:

   2) where the **** are the DN10000 compiler beta testers?

Here is one.  I don't think it's fair to blame the state of the
compilers on the beta testers.  Their role is not to perform extensive
and comprehensive testing of the system, but to discover some of the
bugs that "typical" users find, as opposed to those found by the kind
of systematic testing that HPollo hopefully does in-house.  There is
no way a small handful of beta testers can try everything!  We
reported 25 bugs during the beta test: 11 f77 bugs and 14 cc bugs (we
use cc more than f77).  Maybe that indicates that the product was
really not ready for beta testing when we got it.  Still, my feeling
at the end of the beta test period was that the compiler seemed much
less buggy than the 10.7 version, at least for our purposes.

   We are finding
   problems within 24 hours of installing the compilers, but that seems to
   be story of our life with HP/Apollo :-(.

Not an unknown feeling.  This is one reason why we volunteered to help
with beta testing.  Maybe you should try to volunteer yourself for
beta testing the next release?

- Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@imf.unit.no>
  Division of Mathematical Sciences
  The Norwegian Institute of Technology
  N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY