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Subject: Re: IIgs ROM revisions
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Date: 4 Apr 91 07:33:55 GMT
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In article <997.apple.a2.net@pro-nbs> asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) writes:
>In-Reply-To: message from gwyn@smoke.brl.mil
>
>
>        I'm not saying that in the past that Apple has crippled
>intentionally the II line, but I'm saying that they are subconsciously
>trying to  phase out the II in favor of the Mac. Keep in mind that any
>major Apple hardware is now designed specifically for the Macintosh, and
>the Apple II is a lucky beneficiary of those products. Apple at least had
>the good sense to use the same connectors and the SCSI interface on the
>IIgs and the Mac.

Actually, if you want to be completely correct on this the statement should
read "Apple at least had the good sense to use the same connectors...on the
Mac as on the GS.

See, the ADB port was developed for the APPLE IIGS.  You know the nifty setup
that the System Folder on system 7 (Mac OS) has (with lots of subfolders).
That was a developement for the GS/OS system software which has been PORTED
over to the Mac.  Most of the nifty new things on the Mac were taken from
the Apple II developmetn teams inivations.  Most notably, of course, is the
ADB port on the GS, but the idea of combinig slots and ports was also first
explored on the GS.  Also the use of DMA (up to 8 Megs) was first explored
on the GS.  Then Apple limited the GS to 4 Megs of DMA (rumor is it was
because they didn't want the GS having more RAM than their Macs).  So when
you say that the apple is using Mac parts, remember that that "ain't exactly
the whole story."

>        But it IS true...Apple would never create a GS that would
>outperform a Macintosh. That simply would not make good business sense to
>them, and would represent a step backwards for them (in their minds).

The GS (stock) already outperforms the Mac.  It has a CLI *AND* a GUI.  I
supports color (all apples do... only some Macs). and it will do anything
a mac will do, including running a laserprinter, much cheaper than a Mac.
Oh sure, it can't outperform a $5000+ Mac, but it is certainly a better
machine than the Mac+, Mac SE, Mac Classic, or any of the other 68000
non-modular macs.


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