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From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II Forever!
Message-ID: <4652.27fb77b1@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Date: 5 Apr 91 00:00:01 GMT
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In article <A14AF505C020F033@MACALSTR.EDU>, SHBOUM@MACALSTR.EDU writes:
> In a previous article, Ryan 'Gozar' Collins writes:
>> Or someone who has payed a fortune for a computer that isn't as powerful as
>> your neighbor's computer that they paid half of what you paid.
> 
>> When I read these Apple II forever msgs, I feel that it is coming from
>> someone who spent $3000 for a computer system, only to have it be outdated
>> in a few years.
> 
>> Now before I get tons of flame-mail, I would like to say that Apple doesn't
>> have a grudge against the Apple II line or their users, its just that 8/16
>> bit computers aren't profitably anymore.
> 
>         Well I'm going to make a couple of comments about a few things that
> have been bothering me for a while. Firstly, I'm really becoming disturbed by a
> market where the opinion is where the users should "junk" their system ever
> three years for another $3,000 computer system because there current one is
> obsolete. Stop and think how expensive that is. Hell, most people can't afford

I'm not talking about buying another $3000 system, I think it is ridiculus 
for a home computer to be so expensive. No wonder it took so long for my 
hold school to get computers, that had to pay a small fortune for each 
computer.

>         Thirdly, there IS money in the 8/16 bit machines. Although its been
> stated, Nientiendo sold 7.2 million more NES systems and 4 million gameboys
> last year in the USA alone which surpasses the TOTAL number of Macs AND II's
> sold over the last 10 years. These sales also brought in 3.7 billion dollars
> for nientendo, which is half of Apple's total revenues. In Japan, all 400,000
> Super NES units in stock sold out on its opening day. Two weeks later when the
> next shipments came in, another 400,000 units sold out in one day. Plus those
> super NES run on a 65C816 at 3.86Mhz with 512x488x256 graphics with a palette
> of 32,000 colors {the graphics potental are amazing on that machine 128 moving
> sprites on a line without flickering!} and incorporates a Sony Digital Signal
> Processor that gives it 8 voice stero sound. Seems like someones doing a better
> job with our "out of date" processor then Apple is, and making a killing with
> it...

Well, if you want to play games. The original Nintendo was built around a 
6502, and the Super NES has a 65816, but they also have a lot of 
specialized chips, especially geared to game playing. One of the things for 
succes of the Nintendo was that they design to do one and only one thing, 
to play games.

If you want to talk support, you oughta own an Atari, where there is hardly 
any support. But I've grown used to it in the past 4 years, and it doesn't 
bother me that much anymore. 

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