Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!daver!bungi.com!news From: george@wombat.bungi.COM (George Scolaro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k Subject: Re: Gatewayed mail message Message-ID: <9104040818.AA12229@wombat.bungi.COM> Date: 4 Apr 91 15:18:09 GMT Sender: news@daver.bungi.com Lines: 43 Approved: news@daver.bungi.com [In the message entitled "Gatewayed mail message" on Apr 4, 14:01, stacey@guug.de writes:] > > To: pc532@daver.bungi.com > Subject: PC532 RS232/V24 Serial Ports are DTE, (DCE is normal for a host). > From: stacey@guug.de (Julian Stacey) > > > To quote the PC532 Functional Spec. Rev. 1.04 11/14/90 Page 4 Line 9: > > Each serial channel connects to a 10 pin header which may be connected > > (via a transition connector and cable) 1:1 to a DB9 connector > > (IBM PC/AT pin compatible). > > > Why was the PC532 IDC configured as DTE ? possibilities include : > - You can take ribbons straight from the PCB to modems. Remember multiple > modem connection inspired the original PC532 design. > - Maybe the PC/AT configuration was taken as `standard' for a host computer, > but it's not, it has a screen that can run a terminal emulator, has just > one or two ports normally, & is often connected via modem to a remote > mainframe. Perhaps thats why IBM configured the PC/AT port as a DTE. Of course it was wired to be compatible with PC/AT configurations. That way all null modem connectors etc etc from 9 pin to 25 pin would work. It may not be a real standard but I bet with the number of PC/AT's out there it certainly is an industry standard... In addition any PC/AT add on like a mouse etc will just plug in - most cheap peripherals are PC/AT compatible or have the appropriate cables/connectors to be so. If you hate PC/AT's or don't own any, then of course the PC532 configuration wouldn't make sense. And yes, its planned use is for heaps of modems... And yes, I took a lot of care to get the mapping from IDC to DB9 correct (for AT compatibility). Thanks for the DTE-DCE mapping info, I'm sure it will help lots of folks that aren't conversant with RS232 hook ups. best regards, -- George Scolaro george@wombat.bungi.com [37 20 51 N / 122 03 07 W]