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From: davel@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (David Lord)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Using Borland C++
Message-ID: <1991Apr5.171426.28904@SanDiego.NCR.COM>
Date: 5 Apr 91 17:14:26 GMT
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Reply-To: davel@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (David Lord)
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Is there someplace on the net where people are discussing Borland C++?
We don't seem to receive comp.windows.ms.programmer here, something I
hope to have corrected. I am crossposting this there anyway since it
seems like the appropriate place. Overall I like the compiler and the IDE alot
except that I don't really want to learn a new text editor so I use Windows
to go back and forth between BC++ and Elvis.

I do have a number of complaints which I intend to call Borland about but
I'm wondering if other people are having the same problems (or not having 
them).

1) Linking even a minimal Windows program on my 386SX takes twenty minutes.
   Using Hyperdisk in Staged Write mode will cut the time down to about five.

2) Using the debugger TDW causes my mouse cursor to vanish in Windows. The
   result is that I have to exit Windows everytime I finish with the
   debugger. Anyone know a way around this? I'm running Windows in 386
   enhanced mode, my mouse is a three button Qtronix Mighty Cat, unusual
   perhaps but I've never had a problem with any other program. I load
   the mouse driver as MOUSE.SYS in my CONFIG.SYS.

      I have now found a rather kludgy way around it, I wrote a windows
      program which calls ShowCursor(1). After exiting the debugger I
      run this program and it gives me my cursor back.

3) The Menu Editor (Whitewater Resources Toolkit) is all but unusable.
   If I add or delete a menu item, any existing items with the 'grayed'
   attribute still say 'grayed' but don't get treated as grayed. I have
   to remove the 'grayed' attribute from each one and then put it back.
   Also I have had the system crash in this program just from clicking
   on the scroll after deleting menu items. The rest of the WRT seems
   to work adequately although the Dialog Box Editor doesn't always
   behave the way I think it should.

Oh, one other bit of information for anyone thinking of buying BC++ to
write Windows applications, expect to pay another $40 for Microsoft's
Windows Programmer Reference. Also, if you're upgrading from TC++ expect
to shell out for Peltzold's (sp?) book on Windows programming (I hear that
you get this free if you are buying BC++ outright rather than as an upgrade.)

I've also read that Borland is sending the Windows Help compiler to
registered owners of BC++. If so they don't seem to be in a big hurry
about it.


If I seem to be making a lot of complaints, I should say that I'd still
take this product over Microsoft "C" any day.
   
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Dave.Lord@SanDiego.NCR.COM
Opinions expressed are my own and usually contrary to those of my employer.