Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!chx400!sicsun!disuns2!shawn From: shawn@litsun.epfl.ch (Shawn Koppenhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: tvtwm and shape extensions - how to get rid of the window frame? Message-ID: Date: 8 Apr 91 08:35:14 GMT Article-I.D.: litsun.SHAWN.91Apr8103514 References: <1991Apr5.101642.520@ap542.uucp> <1991Apr6.003849.12331@servalan.uucp> Sender: news@disuns2.epfl.ch Reply-To: shawn@litsun.epfl.ch Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Lines: 29 In-reply-to: rmtodd@servalan.uucp's message of 6 Apr 91 00:38:49 GMT Richard> Because tvtwm (and its predecessor, twm), *always* put a window frame (well, Richard> actually a title bar) on any client window unless you tell it otherwise. On Richard> SHAPE'd windows like oclock, this looks rather silly. So what you need to Richard> do is put a NoTitle declaration in your tvtwmrc telling which sorts of windows I thought of doing this too (with most of my windows) because in general I don't like title bars on my windows. The problem with that is it makes it impossible to move or "click to front" the window in question. So now I *have* to have title bars on all windows I might want to move. True... i can move any window by using the virtual miniscreen or pull a window to the front by pulling up an icon manager. Still, i really like how in olwm i can clock anywhere on the border of a titlebar-less window and resize, move, or "clicktofront". The compromise that I've made in tvtwm (because I really do like it) is to use a rediculously small font for my window bars. now all i have to make sure of is that they don't get overlapped by other windows. -- _____________________________________________________________________________ | shawn@litsun.epfl.ch -.- KLEIN BOTTLE FOR SALE ... \####### | Shawn Edwin Koppenhoefer \_/ ... enquire within \###### | Sun System-Manager, EPFL (Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne) \##### | EL-Ecublens, CH 1015 Lausanne SWITZERLAND (021)6934703 telefax=474660 \#### | from Canada dial: 1-41-21-693-4703 ____________________________________|### |___________________________________/