Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU (Ken Shirriff) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Air losses in the Gulf Message-ID: <1991Apr5.092319.8655@amd.com> Date: 4 Apr 91 22:59:36 GMT Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Lines: 29 Approved: military@amd.com From: shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU (Ken Shirriff) A main reason for low Allied air losses is that the Iraqi air defenses were very poor, as was shown in the Iran-Iraq war. A few quotes from "The Gulf and the Search for Strategic Stability" (A. Cordesman, 1984) make this clear: "Neither side [Iran, Iraq] has shown much proficiency in sophisticated air defense. The Iranians discovered early in the war that small, low-flying F-4 formations could strike virtually at will anywhere in Iraq. It is clear that Iran was able to fly under [Iraqi defenses] and outmaneuver them without extensive use of sophisticated electronic countermeasures. "There is no doubt that the Iraqis -- all public claims to the contrary -- are deeply unhappy about the quality of the air defense radars and C3I systems they bought from the USSR. "It would seem that Iraq has bought the SA-2, SA-3, and SA-6 without getting the technical help, C3I links, sensors, and siting assistance to really make them effective. "The Iraqis have been forced to rely on earth mounds, other passive defenses such as barrage balloons, and AA guns to protect their cities, oil facilities, industries, and other rear installations. Ken Shirriff shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU