Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: balistik@nevada.edu (SHAWN HICKS) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Sexism in the church?? Message-ID: Date: 4 Apr 91 06:16:57 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Nevada, System Computing Services Lines: 38 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article lang@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Raymond Lang) writes: >In JKH107@psuvm.psu.edu (Joy Haftel) writes: > >>I Timothy 2:11-15 >>"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not >> a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in >> silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, >> but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding >> she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity >> and holiness with sobriety." > >This passage must be considered in light of the prevailing cultural >standards of the first century. To apply it out of context to men >and women today is simply foolish. Paul may have been under the special >guidance of the Holy Spirit (as were all the biblical authors), but that >does not make him (or his writings) immune from the prejudices of his day. This thread dealt with the Gay Ordination originally and I think that Ray makes an interesting point here that has relevance to that original thread. In todays society the idea women should be subservient to men is pure bunk. And yet there are passages from the Bible that say just that, rather straight out, with no room to dither about meaning. Yet it is interesting how the attitude is different for the women than for gays. Perhaps we too are not "immune from the prejudices of [our] day." It's startling how Christians sometimes twist the New Testament, ignoring important passages and raising insignificant ones to the status of the 10 Commandments. ___ \ \________________ | |_______________> InterNet: balistik@uns-helios.nevada.edu /__/ //Ballistik// B0 c+ k s- e h+ r