Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: cadence!stevep@uunet.uu.net (Steve Peterson) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Jesus - Omni(potent/scient)? (was Re: Deity of Christ, H.S. etc.) Message-ID: Date: 4 Apr 91 06:18:27 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc. Lines: 64 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article c9037544@cc.newcastle.edu.au (David Williams) writes: Hi David! Here are a few more comments about parts of your Trinity proof. >This is in response to some questions about the deity of Christ, and the >doctrine of the Trinity and such matters. >THE DEITY OF CHRIST. > B. Proved by His characteristics. > 1. Omnipotence (Matthew 28:18). > 2. Omniscience (John 1:48). Omnipotence? ------------ You site Mathew 28:18 "And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: 'All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." Paul writes of the one BIG exception: 1 Cor 15:24-28 "Next, the end, when [Jesus] hands over the kingdom to *his* God and Father....For [Jehovah] "subjected all things under [Jesus] feet." But when [Jehovah] says that "all things have been subjected," IT IS EVIDENT THAT IT IS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF [JEHOVAH] WHO SUBJECTED ALL THINGS TO HIM. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the Once who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone." Omniscience? ------------ You site John 1:48 "Nathanael said to him: "how does it come that you know me?" Jesus in answer said to him: "Before Philip called you, while you were under the fig tree, I saw you." I don't see that this is saying that Jesus is Omniscience. But, let us assume that some do. Is Jesus Omniscience? Math 24:36 "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." POINT: Jesus is neither Omnipotent or Omniscient. With love, Steve Peterson ---- stevep@cadence.com or ...!uunet!cadence!stevep