Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!apple!olivea!bu.edu!m2c!wpi.WPI.EDU!lizardo.wpi.edu!shari From: reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy) Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam Subject: Re: Dress Codes in Islam .... Message-ID: <1991Apr9.055559.7630@wpi.WPI.EDU> Date: 9 Apr 91 05:55:59 GMT References: <1991Apr5.044254.15940@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Sender: news@wpi.WPI.EDU (News) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California Lines: 63 Approved: shari@wpi.wpi.edu Originator: shari@lizardo.wpi.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: lizardo.wpi.edu In article <1991Apr5.044254.15940@nntp-server.caltech.edu> whaddara@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes: > ... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > In a previous article Anoosh Husseini writes regarding >some African societies who have a very lax dress code but who are >also relatively free of 'social crimes'. I would >be indebted to him if he would mention the names of a couple >of those societies, since I seem to recall that the problem >with AIDS in Africa is that people have a very lax moral code. >This is to the extent that *heterosexual* transmission of AIDS >has become much more of a problem than *homosexual* spread. >This would seem to indicate a problem. At least to me . >The issue that I'm trying to adress is that Islam is not an irrational >religion, especially as regards social restrictions. When a ruling has >been made in Islam you could expect that breaking that rule will bring >adverse consequences. This applies to such varied things from 'moral' >behaviour and relations between the sexes to alcohol consumption. > > >Wael M. R. Haddara I don't think this is very difficult to find. I have seen many National Geographic specials on TV on the life of tribal societies in Africa (and South America) where the women and men wear a minimal amount of clothing. However, these societies are far removed from the 'modern African (or South American)' life in the cities or where civilization has touched society and where, as you say, the spread of AIDS has become a problem. They exist mainly on the plains and in the jungles. Their society is very tight knit so they can impose a rudimentary societal code which serves them well and precludes any abnormal behavior because of it. In fact, many of these tribes were devastated by their exposure to 'civilization' because it brought with them diseases like cholera etc. against which they had no natural defenses. But I can give you an example from a few years ago in India which brings up the dichotomy between this 'tribal' way of thinking and it's clash with conservative values. These is a certain sect in the southern Indian state of Kerala (which has a very harmonious mix of Muslim, Christian and Hindu populations) where the women used to go around topless (without any problems). Apparently, a conservative Christian group managed to infuse the thought amongst these women that doing so was amoral. Consequently, the women started covering themselves, which had the men up in arms about it. I do not know how the issue was resolved but, suffice to say, it caused quite a furor. But this brings up the point of moral codes. These tribes do not see the relationship between males and females in the same way that, say, Western or Islamic societies see them. Consequently they do not need to impose the rules and restrictions that the latter societies impose. Their measure of morality is quite different from ours. Perhaps if we can go back to basics and see the relationship between the sexes as a question of survival of the human race as opposed to a pursuit of desirous objects, then we can start thinking in the same manner too. -- T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com) Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans John Lennon.