Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen From: davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: alt.sources.d Subject: Re: Oberon Image Warning Message-ID: <3642@sixhub.UUCP> Date: 9 Apr 91 00:14:20 GMT References: <1991Mar25.165207.11393@tandem.com> <3511@sixhub.UUCP> Reply-To: davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) Organization: *IX Public Access UNIX, Schenectady NY Lines: 65 I tried to post a followup a week ago, but I don't think it went out... A number of people have sent mail to postmaster@sixhub.uucp to complain about the posting of Hugh Moore. After looking at what he said, the only fault I find with it is that he posted it to the wrong group, and he could have been more polite about it. Had he known the whole truth he probably would have been even more emphatic. The "oberonm" posting was originally sent to comp.compilers, where it certainly doesn't belong. The moderator told the submitter about c.b.i.p and dropped me a note. I then got a copy in my personal mailbox rather than the submission address, as a self unpacking archive, uuencode using blanks, with all trailing blanks missing. I asked the person to resubmit to the correct address, in an archive, using a decent uuencode. I included an example of using 'tr' in UNIX to correct for a broken encode. I scrapped the first submission. I then got back, at the submission address, another copy of the self unpacking archive, uuencode with the same broken archiver, with trailing blanks deleted. I told the submitter I would put it on the "slush pile" and send it to a reviewer who might be able to extract it. It next showed up in alt.sources, not as source, as self unpacking archive, uuencoded using blanks, with trailing blanks deleted. Sound familiar? After a few postings about the archive being undecodable (because of trailing blanks) it showed up in alt.sources again, with all the same defects. You may believe that if I had time to write a flame, you would have seen one which would melt the phosphor off the screen. I don't, so I didn't. This submitter (I never got a name, I know not male or female) is totally ignoring the people who are trying to provide the help requested in getting the posting out. To the people who want Hugh off the net: don't hold your breath, especially those who flamed him for posting non-source to alt.sources by posting (you guessed it) non-source in alt.sources. You have told him about that, and he either will or won't mend his ways. His post was not illegal, obscene, or unprovoked. To the people who ask why I'm holding the submission to c.b.i.p: I unpack these self unpacking archives like a live bomb, on a system with a hard disk which is low level formatted before and after the unpack so I can check every sector on the disk for change. There must be a reason why this person likes the format, but I won't compromise c.b.i.p readers to please someone who won't do something to help me. Of course before this one gets unpacked it has to have trailing blanks put back, one at a time, by hand, with an editor. And if the submitter is telling people I "refused to post it," a phrase which has been in a few notes, it isn't because I have anything against the submitter, it's because the submission is mangled, the submitter is uncooperative, and I'm wasting time reading mail from people who are ruder to me (who posted nothing) than Hugh ever was. Now could we use the bandwidth to discuss sources here, instead of postings and repostings of non-source material? -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me