Xref: utzoo comp.terminals:2778 alt.graphics:93 comp.benchmarks:556 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!decuac!grebyn!marriott From: marriott@grebyn.com (Marriott Corp.) Newsgroups: comp.terminals,alt.graphics,comp.benchmarks Subject: Re: Looking for C-Scape vs. Vermont Views Comparison Summary: VV is great, have you looked at JAM? Keywords: C C-SCAPE PROGRAMMER VERMONT VIEWS MENU MENUS WINDOW WINDOWS JAM Message-ID: <1991Apr14.212726.18103@grebyn.com> Date: 14 Apr 91 21:27:26 GMT References: <1991Apr10.141749.26112@idsssd.UUCP> Organization: Grebyn Timesharing Lines: 33 In article <1991Apr10.141749.26112@idsssd.UUCP> bruce@idsssd.UUCP (Bruce T. Harvey) writes: > > [stuff deleted] > >Two products we are curious about (since they cost the most and offer >the most) are C-Scape and Vermont Views. > I have used Vermont Views under MS-DOS and I really loved using it. I thought the library-programmer interface was great. The naming conventions were very sensible and their general software approach was very clean. You can either have "loose" control of your screens (i.e., you let VV have complete control), or you can have very tight control. We needed very tight control and managed to accompished just about everything we wanted to. VV has many "hook-points" at which you can take control and modify the normal functioning of the screen. I recommend it highly. Performance was very snappy under MS-DOS. I am currently using a screen package under unix called JAM. Although it doesn't seem to allow quite as tight control as VV, is has other advantages. JAM has an "authoring" tool in which screens can be built and tested interactively. This tool is similar to, but a little more powerful than, the VV designer. JAM is *very* portable. We currently use versions for MS-DOS, SCO Unix, AIX, and AT&T Unix SVR4. There is also a MOTIF version of JAM which allows your ASCII-developed screens to be tranparently used in a MOTIF/X-Windows environment. JAM is developed by JYACC (offices in NY City). Both JAM and VV are excellent products, but with different approaches and different strengths. Chris