Xref: utzoo comp.cog-eng:1946 comp.groupware:530 comp.multimedia:339 comp.realtime:1249 news.groups:30456 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!hydra!ral From: ral@hydra.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Roger Lighty) Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng,comp.groupware,comp.multimedia,comp.realtime,news.groups Subject: Re: Proposal for radical re-organization of these news groups. Message-ID: <1991Apr12.192008.10535@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 12 Apr 91 19:20:08 GMT References: <1991Apr11.170634.14666@telecdn.uucp> Sender: news@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Usenet) Distribution: na Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 18 Nntp-Posting-Host: hydra.jpl.nasa.gov While some may approach these subjects as software-engineering, others have definitions of S/W-ENG which would not allow progress in these fields. If you put S/W-ENG in the title, and the discussion wanders to user preferences or data on human factors/psychology -- here come the flame wars. Cog-eng, groupware, multimedia are about more than the latest structured programming technique. Even in the computing domain, there is more to these areas than S/W. Would we then need a comp.hardware.multimedia. And looking at some of the other groups: comp.S/W-ENG.groupware might need a comp.sociology.groupware; comp.S/W-ENG.cog-eng might need a comp.biology.cog-eng and comp.psychology.cog-eng. no, No, NO! comp.S/W-ENG is too parochial a view of the multi-disciplinary nature of these fields. Not all of us are comp.sci. Some of us are biologists and there are rumors of social scientist and even (don't let it get around) artists and real designers working in these fields. NO TANX ral@hydra.jpl.nasa.gov