Xref: utzoo comp.dcom.modems:9190 sci.crypt:4465 alt.security:2158 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!pacbell.com!tandem!netcom!gandrews From: gandrews@netcom.COM (Greg Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,sci.crypt,alt.security Subject: Re: Modem backdoor passwords (was re: security functions) Summary: Password security is for devices that don't have it already. Message-ID: <1991Apr12.073253.9334@netcom.COM> Date: 12 Apr 91 07:32:53 GMT References: <1991Apr5.170644.3076@sctc.com> <1991Apr5.215301.13807@netcom.COM> <1991Apr10.150745.4628@sctc.com> Distribution: usa Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services UNIX System {408 241-9760 guest} Lines: 39 In article <1991Apr10.150745.4628@sctc.com> smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith) writes: > >The basic question is *WHY* would someone buy a dialback modem in the >first place? Yes, computer systems are pasword protected. For many >users (academic classwork and research machines, for example) this is >sufficient. However, if you are protecting something serious or pricey, >you often want something more than generic authentication techniques. >As we all know, *nobody* has ever had their password compromised ;-> > I don't see modem password security (whether dialback or pass-through) as a big benefit for most computers, since they would already have security measures built in. It can be useful for other types of devices that wouldn't otherwise have security measures. One example that was pointed out to me is computer controlled radio transmitter gear located next to the antenna on a remote hilltop. The engineers at the radio station want to dial in and tweak the transmitter, but it was designed for a dumb terminal in a locked room so there's no password security built in. Modem security would let the engineers sleep without nightmares about 14-year-old modem jockeys finding the number and pulling the plug... > >BTW, does anyone have a list of dialback modem manufacurers who do >and don't have backdoor passwords? > Telebit doesn't use a password scheme for remote access. Set S45=0 and it is disabled. I haven't double checked myself yet, but I believe that the security register (S46) can't be changed through remote access even if remote access were enabled. -- .------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Greg Andrews | UUCP: {apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!gandrews | | | Internet: gandrews@netcom.COM | `------------------------------------------------------------------------'