Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!att!ucbvax!agate!eris.berkeley.edu!doug From: doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Autocorrelation Pitch Tracker Message-ID: <1991Apr13.013025.26614@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 13 Apr 91 01:30:25 GMT References: <78395@bu.edu.bu.edu> <1991Apr6.062906.11886@cs.cmu.edu> <51258@apple.Apple.COM> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28 In article <51258@apple.Apple.COM> malcolm@Apple.COM (Malcolm Slaney) writes: >That said, you need more than two cycles of a signal to perceive its pitch! >I just tried it. I synthesized (with MatLab) a signal that looks like > 1 second of silence > a small number of cycles of 220Hz sine wave > 1 second of silence >If there is only one or two cycles then all one hears is a click. There is >nothing in this sound that would let me hear a pitch. Not until I get to >four or five cycles does it start to sound musical so I can assign a pitch >to it. Try it, if you don't believe me. This is an interesting subject. I have to wonder whether your experiment might be faulty, though. What if you're simply uncovering funny behavior in your sound system rather than in your ear, for instance? I think for something like this you'd want to verify that the sound you intended is really being created; try a mike & a digitizer to bring it back into your system. Besides all that, consider the Fourier domain of this. My intuition is flakey here, but it seems to me that since the period of the boxcar window is almost equal to the period of the sine, the effect in the Fourier domain should be almost identical to a single pulse of a square wave in the first place, no? Hence a click. Doug -- -- Doug Merritt doug@eris.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!eris!doug) or uunet.uu.net!crossck!dougm