Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hp-vcd!johne From: johne@hp-vcd.HP.COM (John Eaton) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: ANYONE CAN FIND MY CREDIT CARD BALANCE & LAST PMT Message-ID: <6750020@hp-vcd.HP.COM> Date: 10 Apr 91 20:52:08 GMT References: <959@camco.Celestial.COM> Organization: Hewlett Packard, Vancouver, WA Lines: 14 <<< < Maybe the AT&T card uses the same PIN < for both, but that's a separate problem, and doesn't diminish the value of < using the PIN when requesting information in preference to using the ZIP < code. ---------- I am assuming that the same PIN is used for calling card as well as Cash advances from ATM's. If someone finds your card and tries to get a cash advance then he only has three guesses before the ATM eats it. If he can have his computer call in and brute force the PIN via phone then he will probably be able to get cash off of your card. John Eaton !hp-vcd!johne