Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!gvlf3.gvl.unisys.com!tredysvr!cellar!rogue From: rogue@cellar.UUCP (Rogue Winter) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: The end of privacy... and so what comes next? Message-ID: Date: 13 Apr 91 23:04:50 GMT References: <4244.2805ba34@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Sender: bbs@cellar.UUCP (The Cellar BBS) Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system Lines: 30 herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes: > The other was about a dormitory with an intrusion control system that > identified people authorized to enter by reading an id card they were > carrying in their pocket. A system as well designed as cellular phones > for tracking a person's movements. > > So come on, were the systems real? Have the horror stories happened? > Surely there has been a case or two of toll fraud on the phone system, > even if the prisoner tracking, pardon me, resident identification > system hasn't been seriously abused, yet. > > dan herrick > herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com The dormitory security is certainly true. The University of Pennsylvania has recently installed card readers in every dormitory that check whether a student lives in that building. (The university has had magnetic strips on their student and staff ID cards for at least six years - prior to the dorm installation, the only use that I know of was in the campus computer store as a means of verifying full-time status.) Whether the card is checked against a datalist in each dorm or a central database is unknown to me, as well as whether logs are kept this way. Perhaps someone at upenn.edu could elucidate. Rogue Winter : "How can you say I only protected people in South rogue@cellar.uucp : Philadelphia? I protected people all over this city; it uunet!cellar!rogue: didn't matter if they were in South Philadelphia or Cellar 215/3369503: Northeast Philadelphia." -- Frank Rizzo, 4/12/91